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Don Ravioli 1:33 Sat Aug 29
New world order, rothschild's and the illuminati

Just started reading up on all this as a mate was talking about it down the pub the other day.
Is it for tin foil hat wearing nut jobs or do people actually believe it.

What's the thoughts of your good selves??

steveiron64 8:04 Sat Jan 23
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Pub Bigot - maybe less than we imagine - how many world leaders would it take ..? Digital systems would make it relatively straightforward to manage global control.
For something weird check out Bohemian Grove ...

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 8:03 Sat Jan 23
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Mike Oxsaw 3:01 Sat Jan 23

'Hasn't Cameron already stated that, rather than being bound by the result of the referendum, they will "take away the outcome and consider it" or words to that effect?'

No.

Golden Oldie 4:09 Sat Jan 23
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Oy vey the dinjoo nuffins cry!

Pub Bigot 4:00 Sat Jan 23
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I've seen the FEMA conspiracy and I don't buy it. This goes back to 2004 when I was made aware of the Illuminati, NWO etc.

As other before me have said, there would have to be far too many people involved for an NWO to take shape

Mike Oxsaw 3:58 Sat Jan 23
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Annony 3:48 Sat Jan 23

All shit like this should be flagged up and kept in the spotlight as early as possible - but given the media need to cosy up to the government to get the "inside stories" for their headlines, such an outcome is highly unlikely.

Annony 3:48 Sat Jan 23
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Mike Oxsaw, As it stands there is no right to vote for 2.7m EU nationals that are resident in the UK.

However it wouldn't surprise me if they moved the goals posts prior to kick off, which could be a game changer.

We are just pawns subservient to our masters in the game of life.

steveiron64 3:43 Sat Jan 23
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It is with foundation imo; much behind our 'visible' politics is orchestrated with a goal to ultimately control world society with a one world order, system, religion, finance etc. If you're interested search FEMA Camps and you'll soon bump into some first hand testimony of both military and civilian comment / experience as to what is apparently being planned behind the scenes and how some headlines are engineered to keep the populace distracted.

Hammer and Pickle 3:42 Sat Jan 23
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Nobody questioning a Marshall type plan is needed, I see, only who is supposed to pay for it.

Well, all we have to do is ask those nice rich Arabs nicely. It's not as if its our business to have a international strategy for the region. Or show any kind of leadership or moral backbone after all.

Let the Arabs sort it out among themselves and shoot any Muslim migrants on sight - they'll never get our enlightened culture anyway.

Pub Bigot 3:37 Sat Jan 23
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Dapablo 2:04 Sat Jan 23
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And you're a judgemental, small minded wanker.

People live in countries. Whether you like it or not, there are borders that you cannot move freely in between.

Not everyone leaving their homeland is fleeing war and persecution. Not every country where migrants are leaving are under a dictatorship or threat from ISIS.

You're a fucking clown with an agenda.

Pub Bigot 3:35 Sat Jan 23
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BRANDED 2:04 Sat Jan 23
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Refugees fleeing persecution, depravation, war etc - Welcome. Stay until the problems in your homeland are sorted. These people should be given support and residency, but not citizenship or an option of citizenship unless they can contribute to our society i.e. Doctor, nurse, educator, scientist. Religious scholars do not fit this criteria.

Unwelcome are those jumping on the gravy-train. This is a expansive field of where they've travelled from, why they've left their homeland.

UK & Europe should be expecting the world community to chip in and not shoulder the burden of mass immigration which is partially (at least!) made up of freeloaders.

Infidel 3:30 Sat Jan 23
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Annony

You beat me to it!

The Marshall Plan was necessary because Germany was a broken country in 1945.

The Middle East has trillions of dollars in both personal wealth and sovereign wealth funds.

In fact it's the largest single pool of liquidity in the World.

There should no more be a European 'Marshall Plan' for the Middle East than a plan for homeless people to set up a soup kitchen for City bankers on their way home from work.

Mike Oxsaw 3:01 Sat Jan 23
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Nailed on there will NOT be a Brexit, whatever the referendum turns up.

Hasn't Cameron already stated that, rather than being bound by the result of the referendum, they will "take away the outcome and consider it" or words to that effect?

What that basically means is:

Ins win "Yippee! snouts back in the trough, boys!"

An Out Shout "We'll let you know...in 5 or 10 years. Meanwhile (we'll) continue to enjoy the benefits of being in the EU (for ourselves, fuck you lot)."

Coffee 2:53 Sat Jan 23
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Far Cough 2:45 Sat Jan 23

Annony 2:53 Sat Jan 23
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...per day.

Annony 2:51 Sat Jan 23
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World wars are to be avoided as everyone is a loser. In WWI many of the aristocracy were wiped out. The world powers have reached a standard of living they will not want to jeopardize. It has thus changed from military to economic wars.

Funding terrorists, creating fear, chaos and social unrest through smaller wars around the globe while displacing millions of refugees causing rival countries economic resources to be used such as in the EU.

One such power was providing satellite intelligence to Iraq for years to intercept Iran border incursions, without this the war would have been over quickly as Iran had four times the army of Iraq.

Only years later when Iran realised it was too coincidental that every time they invaded they were greeted with a much bigger army and wiped out. Iran questioned this, and were also supplied with the same. Arms were also supplied to both Iran and Iraq during the 8 year war with approx 1m killed.

Saudi Arabia, Iran and others are rumoured to fund terrorists. The IRA were funded by the US.

Fracking is economic war on the oil rich middle east and is working reducing oil and income by 70%. The US no longer needs oil from the middle east and will not defend Saudia Arabia from Iranian invasion.

The UN is controlled primarily by the US. Russia have also been brought to their knees economically due to oil, and economic UN sanctions which are a form of economic war. The UN is controlled primarily by the US. Coincidentally the UN have just removed sanctions from Iran for the first time in forty years, which will flood the market with 1 million barrels of oil.

Far Cough 2:45 Sat Jan 23
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Why should there be a Marshall plan for the middle east when some of them are awash in oil?

Let it come from those countries

Hammer and Pickle 2:42 Sat Jan 23
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I'd like to counter Infidel's far-right propaganda and distortion.

The time to prevent this migrant crisis was in 2013, when it became apparent that people would be on the move without a sustained and multi-layered Marshall Plan for the Middle East and Sub-Saharan Africa. No such initiative was forthcoming mainly because Obama is not much cop, the governments in Europe dithered or allowed the initiatives to be derailed (in the case of the UK) and the Despot in the Kremlin decided the best way to mess Europe up was to precipitate this crisis using the Syrian Civil War as a trigger.

The arrival of these peoples has above all been seized upon by the far right as fuel for its anti-EU agenda. What happens next is going to be interesting, though it is notable that minds are at last perhaps focussing on the real structural issues that must be addressed to prevent real disaster. At least Wolfgang Schäuble, the German finance minister, called for such a broad plan for the Middle East and North Africa at Davos the other day, and that in the context of maintaining Schengen. Because to dismantle that would truly be really catastrophic, especially in economic terms.

BRANDED 2:23 Sat Jan 23
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If I was living in Turkey I'd want to come to Eurpoe. Indeed, if I lived in China I would too.

Infidel 2:18 Sat Jan 23
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Dapablo

What are you talking about?

The Syrians who came to Europe last year came mainly from Turkey, where they were completely safe.

They made the crossing because they thought the benefits system and health care would be better in Europe than in Turkey. It had nothing to do with safety because they were already safe.

The other 80% of the migrants came from places like Pakistan, Somalia,Iraq, North Africaand the Balkans.They moved because life is quite hard where they come from, not because their houses were blown up by bombs. It's economic migration.

And why is life hard? In large measure because of the impact of Islam, which stifles freedom of thought and subjects every citizen to a life of constant vigilance so as not to be seen to offend the Prophet.

That's why innovation, new ideas and ground breaking technologies do not come from Islamic countries and it's why they are almost always poor unless they have oil.

You would think they would set foot in Europe and reject Islam but of course they can't, because the penalty for discarding Islam is death.

Dapablo 2:04 Sat Jan 23
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"I'm completely opposed to migration just because someone doesn't like their own country. To move you should have to benefit your adopted nation."

People don't live in countries they live in houses, when it gets blown up by a bomb you move somewhere else. You are merely a selfish fool who has no understanding of the world at all.

BRANDED 2:04 Sat Jan 23
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Bigot

Which of the migrants in the UK do you like and which don't you?

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